The MLS season will kick off with replacement referees after unionized match officials rejected the terms offered during Collective Bargaining Agreement negotiations. Jimmy Conrad, Jesse Marsch and Tony Meola discuss the Professional Soccer Referees Association’s (PSRA) demands as well as the potential impact that stand-in refs could have on the competition.  

Ref lockout (05:13): MLS/PRO and PSRA at odds before Inter Miami vs. Real Salt Lake season opener.

Americans Abroad (18:04): Ricardo Pepi needs to score more; Josh Sargent can’t be ignored; why does Gio Reyna struggle for minutes? 

What classifies a “signature win”? (34:52): Gregg Berhalter’s time constraints; Style and substance “not mutually exclusive”

PSV vs. Dortmund preview (47:55): three Americans left standing in UCL; Folarin Balogun’s Monaco goal drought.  

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