Kevin Johnson the Chief Executive Officer of Secure Ideas joined me to discuss ShowMeCon and his keynote presentation on the infosec community rising from the ashes like a phoenix. It’s been a while since I’ve had the opportunity to catch up with Kevin but we got right into it and had a lot of great laughs. It’s a little all over the place with talk about ShowMeCon, reincarnation, and John Wick as a romantic comedy. Also, there is an EXPLICIT tag on this podcast.