Welcome to episode 114 of Activist #MMT. Today's part two of my two-part conversation with Gregg Stebben. In part one, I gave Gregg a broad introduction to MMT, its basic policy implications, and some of the major myths it shatters. Today in part two, we branch out to a wide-ranging conversation about the state of the world and how MMT does and does not relate to it. (A list of the audio chapters in this episode can be found at the bottom of this post.) And now, let's get right back to my conversation with Gregg Stebben. Enjoy. Audio chapters 8:22 - When Bernie Sanders ran for president 12:33 - We are going to go extinct 18:36 - What's the connection between MMT and climate change? 21:21 - President Epstein 23:37 - What do I tell my kids? 28:53 - Mint the Coin 36:08 - Healthcare for all is complicated 47:36 - COVID checks and UBI 51:51 - Obamacare and labels 55:17 - The battle will be won with manipulation 58:20 - Goodbyes 1:01:58 - Duplicate of intro with no music