Today on the show I have a double episode. We start by talking to podcast host Rebecca Ickes Carra about joining the Brickyard Podcast Network. Her podcast The Makers Playbook focuses on the business of art and “what it’s really like to make a living from the things we make.” Season five of the podcast launches next week with an interview with Archie Bray Foundation director Rebecca Harvey. Subscribe to The Maker's Playbook now on your favorite podcast app. In the second part of our interview, I talk with Michael Middleton, a multifaceted creative who has written plays, designed video games, and worked in consultanting. In the interview we talk about how a family connection to ceramics lead him to collect a broad range of studio makers and artists. You can see his collection at www.artworkarchive.com.   Today’s episode is brought to you by the following sponsors:   Ceramics Monthly is offering Red Clay Rambler listeners 15% off any new Ceramics Monthly subscriptions. Now through January 31, 2024, visit http://ceramicartsnetwork.org/rambler and enter the promo code for the subscription of your choice that is listed on that page!   The Bray www.archiebray.org   The Rosenfield Collection of Functional Ceramic Art www.Rosenfieldcollection.com