As Chris and Christine consider their Christian high schooler's next steps in education, they have a fascinating conversation with the founder of California-based Hildegard College -- Dr. Matthew Smith. Find out what he says makes Hildegard a fresh way to think about a Christian higher education. A way of learning he says is unlike virtually any other large, established Christian university in the country. Learn more about Dr. Matthew Smith's work here. Follow Hildegard College on Facebook, Instagram and X.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube.  You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.