Nick Kypreos, Justin Bourne and Sam McKee break down the Leafs' 2-1 OT win over the Ducks in the second game of a back-to-back - has Martin Jones changed people's minds on what he is at this stage of his career? How much of it is related to the play of the defence? They discuss Auston Matthews' league-leading 30th goal, the low scoring affair, and the recent play of Bobby McMann. Afterwards, they bring on former New York Rangers goaltender Mike Richter (30:09) to discuss what can be done with a struggling netminder like Samsonov, how to bring along young guys like Dennis Hildeby, and what it means to have  a stabilizing presence in goal like Martin Jones. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates.