Michael talks with Mike Rinder, on his book "A Billion Years: My Escape From a Life in the Highest Ranks of Scientology." Rinder was Scientology’s international spokesperson, head of its Office of Special Affairs, and a member of the Board of Directors of Church of Scientology International, until he left the organization in 2007. Original air date 3 October 2022. The book was published on 27 September 2022.