Michael talks with Jonah Goldberg about his book "Suicide of the West: How the Rebirth of Tribalism, Populism, Nationalism, and Identity Politics is Destroying American Democracy." At the time of the interview, Goldberg was Founding Editor at the National Review. Now, he is an LA Times columnist and editor-in-chief at The Dispatch. Original air date 4 May 2018. The book was published on 24 April 2018.