Our friend Trygve Olson joins us to dig into the 2024 race. Why Joe thinks Trump is weaker than pundits believe -- and what all the polls are getting wrong. Trippi finds some encouraging numbers "under the hood" on the economy that Democrats should be very optimistic about. What two demographic groups does Trygve identify as critical in 2024? And the four states right now we believe are the key battlegrounds. Joe and Trygve also answer a listener question about the primaries and what might come next...
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