The MacVoices Live! panel discusses the controversy surrounding Beeper, questioning whether it's a case of innovation or something less above-board. The back-and-forth between Beeper and Apple results in concerns about the security implications of giving out Apple IDs. The discussion shifts to the broader topic of politicians, particularly Elizabeth Warren, making statements about technology without a deep understanding of the issues at hand, with Beeper front and center. Overall, Chuck Joiner, David Ginsburg, Eric Bolden, Brian Flanigan-Arthurs, Ben Roethig, Jeff Gamet, Jim Rea, Mark Fuccio, and Guy Serle explore the complexities of interoperability, user experience, and Apple's decision-making in the context of iMessage and Beeper.  This edition of MacVoices is supported by the MacVoices Holiday Gift Guides. Great gear picks by our panelists. Check them out: http://MacVoices.com/HolidayGiftGuides Show Notes: Chapters: 0:05:18 Beeper: Apple's Block and Unblocking Methods 0:06:17 Forging certificates and Apple's response 0:07:42 Beeper's sudden shift to being a free service 0:10:19 Elizabeth Warren's Anti-Tech Grandstanding 0:12:47 Politicians and Technology: Broad Strokes vs. Single Issues 0:14:39 Elizabeth Warren's Twitter Post Criticized 0:16:12 Apple's Reputation and Tech Company Misconceptions 0:19:53 Android vs. Apple: User Interface Differentiation 0:21:57 Apple's Motive for iMessage: Breaking Carrier Monopoly or Selling Phones? 0:23:47 Beeper App: Motivated by Acquisition Potential 0:25:20 Web's Positive Experience with CarPlay in Tesla Links: Apple Confirms It Shut Down iMessage for Android App Beeper Mini  https://www.macrumors.com/2023/12/10/apple-confirms-it-shut-down-beeper-mini/ iMessage for Android App 'Beeper Mini' is Back, Apple ID Sign In Now Required and Phone Numbers Don't Work  https://www.macrumors.com/2023/12/11/beeper-mini-android-imessage-app-back/ Beeper’s iMessage app for Android is back — but it’s a downgrade  https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/11/23997097/beeper-mini-android-imessage-app-working-again Senator Warren wades into Apple's Beeper fight with irrelevant antitrust rhetoric  https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/12/11/senator-warren-wades-into-apples-beeper-fight-with-irrelevant-antitrust-rhetoric Beeper Mini restores its iMessage app for Android and makes it free, but will it last?  https://9to5google.com/2023/12/11/beeper-mini-restored-apple/ Guests: Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him on Twitter, by email at embolden@mac.com, on Mastodon at @eabolden@techhub.social, and on his blog, Trending At Work. Brian Flanigan-Arthurs is an educator with a passion for providing results-driven, innovative learning strategies for all students, but particularly those who are at-risk. He is also a tech enthusiast who has a particular affinity for Apple since he first used the Apple IIGS as a student. You can contact Brian on twitter as @brian8944. He also recently opened a Mastodon account at @brian8944@mastodon.cloud. Mark Fuccio is actively involved in high tech startup companies, both as a principle at piqsure.com, or as a marketing advisor through his consulting practice Tactics Sells High Tech, Inc. Mark was a proud investor in Microsoft from the mid-1990's selling in mid 2000, and hopes one day that MSFT will be again an attractive investment. You can contact Mark through Twitter, LinkedIn, or on Mastodon. Jeff Gamet is a technology blogger, podcaster, author, and public speaker. Previously, he was The Mac Observer’s Managing Editor, and the TextExpander Evangelist for Smile. He has presented at Macworld Expo, RSA Conference, several WordCamp events, along with many other conferences. You can find him on several podcasts such as The Mac Show, The Big Show, MacVoices, Mac OS Ken, This Week in iOS, and more. Jeff is easy to find on social media as @jgamet on Twitter and Instagram, jeffgamet on LinkedIn., @jgamet@mastodon.soc