This week Ben Rhodes speaks to Steve Bloomfield. Rhodes was formerly at the centre of the Obama administration: he started as a speechwriter but quickly became one of Obama’s closest advisors on foreign policy. He was there for some of the most important geopolitical events in recent history. 

His new book is called The World As It Is: Inside the Obama White House. Bloomfield reviewed it for our July issue. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.