Jonny Miller is an internal explorer. He's a former meditation teacher turned breathwork evangelist. In this conversation, we dive deep into his story. How has he changed? Is he surprised at how his life has unfolded? What is the future for breathwork? What's it like to go into a dark room for days on end? Topics: (0:00) Thank you Jonny (0:36) Freediving (5:53) Guiding in breathwork sessions (10:10) Why does Jonny focus so strongly on breathwork? (16:12) Bottom-up (20:01) Is the person who Jonny is today surprising to him? (21:36) What would be most surprising to him about himself? (23:03) Future for breathwork (27:50) What should people do to integrate their breathwork experiences? (31:15) The relaxation phase of breathwork (34:20) Flaws of current Western education system (37:41) “The conversational nature of reality” (41:10) How Jonny met his wife (43:08) Going into a darkroom (47:19) How different was Jonny’s experience from his wife’s? (48:33) What point should someone consider going into a dark room? (49:40) Andrew Taggert (53:55) Inner work = mirror (56:30) Judgment of judges (58:01) Internal Family Systems (1:02:10) Byron Katie and addiction (1:04:01) Why are some people transformed by pain in a positive direction and others in a negative direction? (1:10:45) Working with anger (1:14:30) How has love changed for Jonny? (1:19:07) How to deepen love within ourselves? (1:21:49) Deep gratitude