Nick Kypreos and Justin Bourne start with the Leafs' 6-5 overtime loss to the Blue Jackets and the team once again playing down to their opponent. They are joined by Gord Stellick (6:46) to break it down, why the Leafs' start was so flat, whether the lack of regulation points to effort lapses or team resilience and the decision to leave Samsonov in after 5 goals. Then, he shares his thoughts on the Leafs' goalie situation and how they should employ Martin Jones in Woll's absence. Later, they are joined by Penguins analyst Phil Bourque (32:19) to tee up the Pens matchup vs. the Leafs on Saturday, the vibes in Pittsburgh, what's changed for Malkin and how to turn around the Karlsson experiment.The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates.