On today’s episode of Hear Me Out… cen-suspicions.

We’re a little over six years away from the next national census. It’s understandable that this might not be at the top of your mind, but for a small group of academics and activists, it absolutely is. 

Race isn’t a real thing, scientifically speaking. But we still live in a heavily racialized society, and the Census sets the stage for many, many policy decisions that impact race equity. So, if race isn’t real, why does the Census act like it’s a simple, immutable fact?

Carlos Hoyt, an author and speaker, joins us to propose a more dynamic way of self reporting – and recording – race. 

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Podcast production by Maura Currie.

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