Professor Lisa Jackson Pulver is a proud Aboriginal woman with connections to communities in southwestern New South Wales, South Australia, and beyond. She is the Deputy Vice-Chancellor of Indigenous Strategy and Services for the University of Sydney and leads the institution's strategy to advance Indigenous participation, engagement, education, and research, including the university's One Sydney, Many People 2021-2024 strategy.She is a recognized expert and tireless advocate for health and education. Her research focuses on capacity building for healthcare workers and improved health for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people. She serves her country in the Royal Australian Air Force Specialist Reserve as a Group Captain and is a member of the Australian Statistical Advisory Committee, the Australian Medical Council, and the Health Performance Council of South Australia."And you look at your continents where you live as well, and you see exactly the same thing. Yet at the same time, we are getting pressured strongly to dig up more pristine land and pollute water sources for this thing called gas, or this thing called coal. These fossil fuels that are going out of favor and won't be around in 30, 40, 50 years.Because we would've grown a brain by then and done something quite different to resource our hungry needs of energy. But when you look at the cost of that, our world is going to take millennia to regenerate again. and it's going to take a real concerted effort for us to be careful about feral species, to be careful about weeds, about monocultures, to recognize that if we don't have diversity in our biosphere, we have got absolutely no chance of surviving.I'll put it in a slightly different way. Aboriginal people have been on this land for at least 60,000 years, through some will say it's the oldest continuing culture on the planet. People have been here in the most the driest continent on Earth, in some of the most extreme conditions on Earth through all that time and have survived. And not just survived, but thrived. And over the last 230 years, the most catastrophic events have occurred to this land because people didn't listen to ancient Aboriginal cultures and languages and knowledge. And I don't mean ancient in that they were practiced only a millennia ago. They're practiced all the way up to now. And because people haven't been listening to that, these catastrophes have been happening. And I would bet that there is all of that knowledge where you live as well, and where all of your listeners are living as well. So my question is, if people were able to look after this place for 60,000 years and thrive, what have we done to ensure that we do have a healthy fit world for the next 60,000 years?And I don't think we can see beyond a hundred, to be honest. And I think we should really get on with getting it right. And my job as an educator, I'm doing my bit and I know lots of others are doing their bit, but how do we really stand in history as being the generation, no matter what our brains, no matter what our education, no matter what our resources and our embeddedness is, that we couldn't deal with what we have faced now, and that's our own extinction."www.sydney.edu.auwww.sydney.edu.au/content/dam/corporate/documents/about-us/values-and-visions/one-sydney-many-people-digital.pdfSeason 2 of Business & Society focuses on Leaders, Sustainability & Environmental Solutions Business & Society is a limited series co-hosted by Bruce Piasecki & Mia Funk www.oneplanetpodcast.org