Two days after watching Ohio State's 30-24 loss to Michigan, Stephen Means and Nathan Baird sit down to rewatch The Game and go through everything that went wrong.
And they literally go through everything as two used a Monday episode of Buckeye Talk to discuss a program that is now dealing with the reality of being on a three-game losing streak to its rival.
The first segment deals with Kyle McCord and whether they think his ceiling is high enough to eventually be the quarterback Ohio State needs him to be long-term. But the better question is whether he's capable of ever getting to that ceiling, at least during his time in Columbus as his flaws finally cost Ohio State a game.
Following the break they dive into everything Ryan Day. His playcalling, how he's handled the rivalry, his staff decisions and much more on a head coach heading into a career-defining offseason.
They wrap things up with some defensive talk and some thoughts on a wide receiver room that didn't quite live up to expectations this season.
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