Can you still call them the FAANG companies considering Facebook is now Meta and Google is now Alphabet? Maybe it’s MAANA now?! Elliott Clark (CEO & Founder, Batteries Included) talks about what it was like creating a Platform Engineering org and building an IDP before it was coolSHOW: 7XXCLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK - http://bit.ly/cloudcast-cnotwNEW TO CLOUD? CHECK OUT - "CLOUDCAST BASICS"SHOW SPONSORS:Learn More About Azure Offerings : Learn more about Azure Migrate and Modernize & Azure Innovate!Azure Free Cloud Resource Kit : Step-by-step guidance, resources and expert advice, from migration to innovation.CloudZero – Cloud Cost Visibility and Savings​​CloudZero provides immediate and ongoing savings with 100% visibility into your total cloud spendDatadog Kubernetes Solution: Maximum Visibility into Container EnvironmentsStart monitoring the health and performance of your container environment with a free 14 day Datadog trial. Listeners of The Cloudcast will also receive a free Datadog T-shirt.Datadog Synthetic Monitoring: Frontend and Backend Modern MonitoringEnsure frontend issues don’t impair user experience by detecting user-facing issues with API and browser tests with a free 14 day Datadog trial. Listeners of The Cloudcast will also receive a free Datadog T-shirt. SHOW NOTES:Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Elliott, you have some great experiences at Cloudera and Meta/Facebook that shaped you moving out to start your own thing at Batteries Included. Give everyone a brief background please.Topic 2 - You were building Internal Developer Platforms (IDP) and doing Platform Engineering before it was cool. Tell everyone a little about the need and how it came to be at Meta/Facebook.Topic 3 - I think it’s probably important to talk about the origin stories for this. What was the problem to solve? How was it solved? What was the final “product” and how was it used?Topic 3a - Anything you would have done differently?Topic 4 - We always hear stories about the FAANG companies and the scale they operate in. But, we hear mixed things about if following those practices are a good idea. Some say we should use them because we know it is repeatable at scale. Others say the practices are only relevant at those companies and most organizations don’t need that level of complexity. Thoughts? What are the pros and cons?Topic 5 - What are your thoughts on the current and future state of Platform Engineering and Internal Developer Platforms? There seems to be a tension between being prescriptive or opinionated enough for operations to scale vs. developers needing to use the tools they know and love to be as productive as possible. Thoughts?Topic 6 - Let’s talk about Open Source. Many have heard about Backstage when it comes to Platform Engineering and we’ve even talked about it on this show before. What are your thoughts around building these platforms on OSS. Also, any thoughts on OSS being cost prohibitive?FEEDBACK?Email: show at the cloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet