Co-Hosts Zach Browman and Devon Ash (https://mountaintoppodcast.com/fluency) The guys from Social Fluency have teamed back up together after a lengthy hiatus, and they're appearing here on the show for the first time. Zach and Devon have long been known as the go-to social skill experts in the world of men's dating advice, so there's nobody better to have on board for a full-on, no-holds-barred discussion of what it's like out there socially in the real world nowadays. Not that many people are actually being social IRL at all, frankly. That's a focal point of the discussion. Basically, we all agreed that there was a pre-COVID state of social skills, then COVID locked us all down, leading to a post-COVID state...and NOW a new and different one is upon us. Could this new fourth iteration of the social climate out there be the 'new normal'? We sure hope not...and we'll tell you why. And what about online dating and apps? Social media in general? What is going on between men and women nowadays...especially very recently compared to even, say...five years ago? How can it be that both men and women seem so angry and jaded, yet are reporting such loneliness at the same time? Are people finally fed up with 'virtual' everything? And could that be driving the recent uptick in doing in-field weekends focused on meeting women in real life? What really will be the next stage...and how can we as men make it a turn for the better rather than the worse? The most sobering part of the whole discussion is how often these guys and I have been arriving at similar conclusions--sometimes using the exact same words--despite not even having been in touch with each other lately. Get all the new goodies including Women And AI when you visit https://mountaintoppodcast.com === HELP US SEND THE MESSAGE TO GREAT MEN EVERYWHERE === The content in this show is NEVER generated by AI. I discovered it can't handle a joke a long time ago. Meanwhile, I'll keep the practical, actionable ideas coming as well as the entertaining part...all for free. If you love what you hear, please rate the show on the service you subscribed to it on (takes one second) and leave a review. As we say here in Texas, I appreciate you!