On the day that the Supreme Court ruled the government's Rwanda plan is unlawful, Rishi Sunak goes head-to-head with Keir Starmer over immigration and national security. Matt is joined by Tim Shipman and Lara Spirit to pause the action and unpack the exchanges.Plus: Columnists Alice Thomson and Robert Crampton discuss the progress Sunak is making on his five pledges, whether it matters what a minister's spouse does for a living, and Robert is forced to defend his assertion that the Northern Lights are "pants". Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.