All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series For some, the definition of zero trust has expanded from how we grant access to networks, applications, and data to how we trust individuals in the real world. Are we taking zero trust too far? Check out this post for the discussions that are the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap (@geoffbelknap), CISO, LinkedIn. Our guest is Thomas Doughty, CISO, Prudential Financial. Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Netfoundry NetFoundry, built on OpenZiti, is the only solution purpose-built to connect massively distributed apps, edges, clouds and devices in minutes, ensuring zero trust of the internet, local and OS host network and delivered as SaaS. Isolating the app to make network security irrelevant and remove the pain of public DNS, VPNs, bastions, as well as complex firewall rules. In this episode: We ask if we’re taking the concept of zero-trust too far. We try to distinguish between where do we have to trust and where do we have to implement zero trust principles? Differentiating between humans and machines when it comes to trust. And is zero trust supposed to be a silver bullet or a cure-all?