Spend four years in jail and come up with a fairly decent crime idea, because we're talking about Ocean's Eight! In this episode, Kat and Jocelyn discuss whether or not Debbie Ocean is actually good at plans, the big-time reliance on queerbaiting, and wonder exactly how many people are part of this plot, cause it's not 8.  This episode brought to you in part by KiwiCo. KiwiCo creates super cool hands-on projects for kids to make learning about STEAM (Science, Technology, Engineering, Art, and Math) fun! Each month KiwiCo sends the kid in your life a new, fun, and engaging project with all the supplies they need to challenge themselves creatively. No need to research or worry about gathering all the supplies! Visit www.kiwico.com/love today to get your first month FREE. Check out www.TeePublic.com and discover your next favourite Tee. Psst... they also have nerdy hoodies, sweaters, baseball tees and long sleeves. Check out our favourite designs at TeePublic.HateLovePodcast.com Edited by Andrew Ivimey and produced for the From Superheroes network. Visit www.FromSuperheroes.com for more podcasts, YouTube series, web comics, and more. IHIBILI Logo by Cubbyhole Studio www.cubbyhole.studio