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Vegetarian Christianity: No Fishes With Their Loaves
Vegetarian Christianity: No Fishes With Their Loaves
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23 minutes
Released:
Nov 7, 2023
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Vegetarian Christianity: No Fishes With Their LoavesThe earliest references to the story of Jesus Feeding the Five Thousand do not include any mentions of fish, only bread. The early church father Irenaeus, writing between 180 and 188 AD, does not say anything at all about the fish, only bread in connection with this Miraculous Feeding of the Multitude as if the gospels he was reading at the time didn't include anything about fishes with the loaves. The historian Eusebius, Arnobius, and several other early Christian writings also never include anything about "fishes" with the loaves, only the loaves, only the bread. It was originally an account about people being given bread. This has lead to some, including Keith Akers, author of the book, The Lost Religion of Jesus: Simple Living and Nonviolence in Early Christianity (also see his wonderful scholarly book, Disciples), to conclude that the making of this popular miracle story into a fish tale must have taken place sometime after Irenaeus and 188 AD. After that date must be when the final edit took place, when fish got added to the story about the Feeding of the Five Thousand, transforming it into the more familiar version people are acquainted with. Today, we examine the case of the missing fish, as well as textual variations between different manuscripts of the New Testament, including the spectacular example of a vegetarian saying of Jesus present in the Old Syriac-Aramaic Evangelion Da-Mepharreshe manuscripts of the Gospel of Luke but not present in the Greek manuscripts. This is another installment in a series of podcasts documenting the vegetarianism of the original Jesus Movement, also known as the Ebionites, Nasoraeans, grandchildren of the Essenes, Hebrew Christians, The Apostles, the Disciples, Christianity-Before-Paul: the folks in the early church Paul was arguing with about diet, including James the Just of Jerusalem.In Divine Love (Bhakti), Light, and Sound, At the Feet of the Masters, Radhasoami,James BeanSpiritual Awakening Radio PodcastsSant Mat Satsang PodcastsSant Mat RadhasoamiA Satsang Without Wallshttps://www.SpiritualAwakeningRadio.com This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit santmat.substack.com
Released:
Nov 7, 2023
Format:
Podcast episode
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