In a rare interview, two Genesis creditors discuss their dealings with the lender and DCG, including the sales pitch that got them to give Genesis new loans after the 3AC debacle. Two Genesis creditors, BJ and Branden, who prefer to use pseudonyms for security reasons, spoke with Unchained about the alleged fraud by the crypto lender and its parent company, Digital Currency Group (DCG). The discussion is one of the first times Genesis creditors have spoken with a media organization about the situation. BJ and Branden explain how they gave more loans to Genesis after it took a $1.1 billion hit from the liquidation of Three Arrows Capital and how they then came to be members of the ad hoc group, a collective of Genesis customers who came together to try and save the company from bankruptcy. They talk about how they now want DCG to pay back the $1.1 billion it owes over a shorter timeframe and to pay back any Bitcoin in actual Bitcoin. The discussion with Unchained followed shortly after New York Attorney General Leticia James filed a lawsuit against Genesis, along with its parent company Digital Currency Group, and Gemini Trust.  Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform.Show highlights | What NYAG Letitia James alleged in the lawsuit against Gemini, DCG, and GenesisHow BJ and Branden became creditors of GenesisHow Genesis claimed it got into what it called a “liquidity mismatch”How, after the Three Arrows Capital collapse, BJ and Branden were reassured that Genesis had "no issues" and "was back to business" Whether the trading and lending units of Genesis were all part of the same company and why that distinction is important.What the difference is between the ad hoc group and an unsecured creditors committeeWhat the creditors are proposing in order to get their assets backWhy the creditors want to be paid in crypto, not in USDWhether the case will go to litigation and what Silbert can do to avoid itThank you to our sponsors!  |  Crypto.com  |  Arbitrum Foundation  |  Phemex|  Popcorn NetworkGuests| Branden, Creditor of GenesisBJ, Creditor of GenesisLinks | Previous coverage of Unchained on Genesis and DCG:Genesis May Be Facing Bankruptcy. Could It Take DCG Down With It?Gemini vs. DCG Is Heating Up. Could Gemini Force Genesis Into Bankruptcy?$630M Due Next Week: Is DCG at Default Risk?NYAG LawsuitUnchained: NY Attorney General Sues Crypto Firms Gemini, Genesis, and DCG for Over $1 Billion FraudThe Block:DCG says it was 'blind sided' by NYAG suit in third quarter shareholder letterGenesis, Gemini, DCG disputesUnchained: Gemini Says DCG Missed $630 Million Payment Last WeekCameron Winklevoss Threatens to Sue DCG and Barry Silbert Over Delays in Genesis ResolutionDCG Calls Gemini Lawsuit a ‘Publicity Stunt’ From Cameron WinklevossDCG Calls Gemini’s Complaint a PR Campaign in Motion to Dismiss LawsuitFTX and Genesis Reach $175 Million Settlement, Resolving Complex DisputeDCG and Genesis Reach In-Principle Deal With CreditorsGemini and Genesis Creditor Groups Object to In-Principle Deal to Resolve BankruptcyGenesis Winds Down its US Spot Crypto Trading OperationGenesis Sues Parent Company DCG, Seeks Repayment of $600 MillionDCG Proposes Remuneration Plan That Could Enable Gemini Earn Users to Be Made WholeGenesis Winds Down All Crypto Trading Services: ReportGemini Pushes Back on DCG’s Remuneration Proposal, Calling it an ‘Attempt to Bait’ Earn UsersUnchained Podcast is Produced by Laura Shin Media, LLC.  Distributed by CoinDesk. Senior Producer is Michele Musso and Executive Producer is Jared Schwartz. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.