This spooky season, we want to share a very real ghost story.

The Lozano family moved into their East Pilsen home when it was newly built, and no one has died there since. Still, they’re convinced a spirit lives among them. They hear footsteps on the stairs, see shadows under doors and experience unexplainable phenomena.

Enter reporters Adriana Cardona-Maguigad and Mauricio Peña. They gamely took on the role of ghost hunters for an episode of WBEZ’s Curious City podcast and worked with the Lozanos to uncover the source of this paranormal activity. But as they report, Pilsen residents face far scarier challenges than spirits.

In this episode, host Erin Allen talks to Peña and Cardona-Maguigad about their reporting on spirits, spiritualism and the looming threat of gentrification in Pilsen.