We should always push ourselves and those around us to learn new things, and Mack has been pushing Erin to new horizons! Erin talks about this and an unfortunate situation during which a Judgy McJudgerson turned into a Telly McTellerson. Then out of nowhere, Charissa ups the ante with her tale of a lobby disaster scenario that played out in real life at the pet groomer. Plus some headlines, all on this episode of the Calm Down podcast.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.