For the past week, we’ve been on VEEP watch – repeatedly checking our phones for any indication that Joe Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee for US president, was ready to announce his running mate. The plan was to discuss his choice – and the role of the vice president more broadly, in today’s episode.But as we refreshed our news feeds, our deadline for recording today’s episode came and went – and there was still no word on Biden’s VP.So that episode will have to wait until next time. In the meantime, we’re bringing back Outtakes – special episodes featuring parts of past conversation that were left on the cutting room floor. Today, that means more insights from Tufts University Professor Daniel Drezner, whom we interviewed last time about the resiliency of the nation-state, and how the COVID-19 pandemic might remake the international order. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.