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Kiddushin 44 - September 26, 11 Tishrei

Kiddushin 44 - September 26, 11 Tishrei

FromDaf Yomi for Women - Hadran


Kiddushin 44 - September 26, 11 Tishrei

FromDaf Yomi for Women - Hadran

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50 minutes
Released:
Sep 26, 2023
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Today's daf is sponsored in honor of Dahlia and Jack Levy on the marriage of their son, Amitai to Shirli Noiman.  There is a disagreement between Rabbi Yehuda and the rabbis about whether a naara can accept her own get or only her father can. Rabbi Yochanan and Reish Lakish disagree about whether the debate between them is also for kiddushin or do they both agree that the father must accept the kiddushin. What is the reason for Rabbi Yochanan who distinguishes between divorce and kiddushin? A braita states that a naara can accept maamar (which is like kiddushin for a yevama). How is this braita explained according to both Rabbi Yochanan and Reish Lakish's positions? Our Mishna can also be used to raise a difficulty with Reish Lakish's position as only the father can appoint a messenger, not the naara. The first suggestion is to associate our Mishna with Rabbi Yehuda's position. However, this suggestion is rejected as the next Mishna does not follow Rabbi Yehuda's position. The conclusion is that both Mishnayot follow Rabbi Shimon who must hold like Rabbi Yehuda regarding the issue of the naara. Rabbi Avin testified that he was in the beit midrash when the rabbis voted to accept Rabbi Yochanan's position against Reish Lakish and permit only a father to accept the betrothal of a naara. Rava asked Rav Nachman: if a naara can accept her get, can she appoint an agent to accept it on her behalf or is it only the father that can do that? On what exactly is Rava's deliberation based? Rav Nachman answered that a naara cannot appoint an agent to accept her get. They raise a difficulty against his ruling from a Mishna in Gittin, but resolve it. If a minor girl accepted a betrothal on her own and when her father heard, he was silent, is that an indication that he accepted her actions and the betrothal is valid on a Torah level or not? Shmuel and Ulla disagree regarding this case.
Released:
Sep 26, 2023
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