Today's debate didn't go very far due to the typical Thomist penchant for avoiding answering objections by simply repeating the position. When we agreed on what Thomism teaches, I asked specific questions which resulted in further stating of the Thomist position. When I said the conversation was "bs" the opponent whined it was a personal insult (it wasn't) and tried to play victim, so it was going nowhere. Here we will open up the chat for any Thomists to finish the discussion for Astro.