What is happening inside us when we ourselves suffer or those around us are suffering? What is happening in our brain? In our soul? Curtis is joined by “the other Curt” - Dr. Curt Thompson - to talk about his new book, The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope. Their conversation explores questions such as: What is the connection between our desire for beauty and our vulnerability to suffering? Why do we avoid others when we ourselves are suffering? Why do the sufferings of others make us so uncomfortable? Most of all, the they probe for the invitation of God amidst suffering.   Redeeming Babel is hiring! Check out our openings here for a Director of Development and a Manager of Partnerships and Projects. https://redeemingbabel.org/we-are-hiring/   The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope by Dr. Curt Thompson   Dominion: How the Christian Revolution Remade the World by Tom Holland   B2THEWORLD: Join the Christian effort to rebuild high quality schools in war torn parts of the world.   George Fox University: Check out the offerings of one of the premier Christian universities in the country.