This discussion on The Mac Show on The British Tech Network covered developers’ relationship with Apple. It was so good that I asked BTN boss Ewen Rankin if I could drop it into the MacVoices feed, and he agreed. Enjoy this thoughtful, and fun, discussion with host Jeff Gamet, David Ginsburg, Ben Roethig, and Patrice Brend’Amour. [embed]http://traffic.libsyn.com/maclevelten/MV23207.mp3[/embed Show Notes: Guests: Patrice Brend’amour is the creator, advocate and Product Manager of a global healthcare software initiative, which is not only pushing the industry to provide user-centered solutions using the latest advances in UX and technology, but also advancing the sharing of medical information between healthcare providers across the world. She is also an avid podcaster, mainly in the technology space, as well as a maintainer and contributor to a number of open source projects. Everything she does can be linked to from The Patrice, You can follow her on Twitter, and engage with her on the podcast, Foodie Flashback. Jeff Gamet is a technology blogger, podcaster, author, and public speaker. Previously, he was The Mac Observer’s Managing Editor, and the TextExpander Evangelist for Smile. He has presented at Macworld Expo, RSA Conference, several WordCamp events, along with many other conferences. You can find him on several podcasts such as The Mac Show, The Big Show, MacVoices, Mac OS Ken, This Week in iOS, and more. Jeff is easy to find on social media as @jgamet on Twitter and Instagram, jeffgamet on LinkedIn., @jgamet@mastodon.social on Mastodon, and on his YouTube Channel at YouTube.com/jgamet. David Ginsburg is the host of the weekly podcast In Touch With iOS where he discusses all things iOS, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, Apple Watch, and related technologies. He is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users. Visit his YouTube channel at https://youtube.com/daveg65 and find and follow him on Twitter @daveg65 and on Mastodon at @daveg65@mastodon.cloud Ben Roethig has been in the Apple Ecosystem since the System 7 Days. He is the a former Associate Editor with Geek Beat, Co-Founder of The Tech Hangout and Deconstruct and currently shares his thoughts on RoethigTech. Contact him on  Twitter and Mastodon. Support:     Become a MacVoices Patron on Patreon     http://patreon.com/macvoices     Enjoy this episode? Make a one-time donation with PayPal Connect:     Web:     http://macvoices.com     Twitter:     http://www.twitter.com/chuckjoiner     http://www.twitter.com/macvoices     Mastodon:     https://mastodon.cloud/@chuckjoiner     Facebook:     http://www.facebook.com/chuck.joiner     MacVoices Page on Facebook:     http://www.facebook.com/macvoices/     MacVoices Group on Facebook:     http://www.facebook.com/groups/macvoice     LinkedIn:     https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckjoiner/     Instagram:     https://www.instagram.com/chuckjoiner/ Subscribe:     Audio in iTunes     Video in iTunes     Subscribe manually via iTunes or any podcatcher:     Audio: http://www.macvoices.com/rss/macvoicesrss     Video: http://www.macvoices.com/rss/macvoicesvideorss