Ben Roethig believes the iPad has evolved to be more like a Mac, with mouse and keyboard support, and that that evolution should include the macOS. We debate the benefits and challenges of a touch interface on the Mac, and the future of traditional laptops. How a unified operating system could preserve device strengths while implementing simplicity is discussed with an eye toward security. [embed]http://traffic.libsyn.com/maclevelten/MV23198.mp3[/embed] This MacVoices is supported by Notion. Do your most efficient work with Notion Projects. You can try it for free today at notion.com/macvoices. Show Notes: Chapters: 0:01:41 Ben's Argument: Convergence of iPad and Mac OS0:04:06 Chuck's Concern: Bloated Operating Systems and Optimization0:08:07 Debate over the benefits of touch functionality on laptops0:10:07 Considering the hassle and code associated with touch interfaces0:12:26 MacBook Pro vs. iPad: Touchscreen Pros and Cons0:13:31 Touch Interface on Macs vs iPad Keyboard Support0:16:07 Microsoft's Innovation with Surface Line and Interface Improvement0:17:31 Microsoft's Strong Support from Business Users0:18:05 The Legacy of Desktop Machines and Laptops0:19:13 Evolution of Devices: Touch First Generation0:20:58 User Needs vs. Wants: Simplifying Interfaces0:21:59 The Future of Computing: A Deep Statement0:23:53 Apple's locked-down devices and limitations on running applications0:25:34 Unified operating system's impact on user experience and security0:26:08 Third Party Gatekeeper Apps vs App Store Apps0:26:45 Apple's focus on security and usability0:28:26 Customizable OS for different user preferences Links: Apple Needs a Single Computer OS by Ben Roethig Guests: Ben Roethig has been in the Apple Ecosystem since the System 7 Days. He is the a former Associate Editor with Geek Beat, Co-Founder of The Tech Hangout and Deconstruct and currently shares his thoughts on RoethigTech. Contact him on  Twitter and Mastodon. Support:     Become a MacVoices Patron on Patreon     http://patreon.com/macvoices     Enjoy this episode? Make a one-time donation with PayPal Connect:     Web:     http://macvoices.com     Twitter:     http://www.twitter.com/chuckjoiner     http://www.twitter.com/macvoices     Mastodon:     https://mastodon.cloud/@chuckjoiner     Facebook:     http://www.facebook.com/chuck.joiner     MacVoices Page on Facebook:     http://www.facebook.com/macvoices/     MacVoices Group on Facebook:     http://www.facebook.com/groups/macvoice     LinkedIn:     https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuckjoiner/     Instagram:     https://www.instagram.com/chuckjoiner/ Subscribe:     Audio in iTunes     Video in iTunes     Subscribe manually via iTunes or any podcatcher:     Audio: http://www.macvoices.com/rss/macvoicesrss     Video: http://www.macvoices.com/rss/macvoicesvideorss