In this episode, Andrew Lewin welcomes Marce Graudins (Founder and Executive Director of Azul) and Kat So (Research Associate for the Centre of American Progress) on the podcast to discuss the results of the Upwell conference.  They highlight the value of collaboration and interaction, and the importance of hearing from people in conservation that are not normally heard. which is often lacking when reading journal articles or documents.  Links: https://www.americanprogress.org/events/upwell-a-wave-of-ocean-justice/ https://www.oceanjusticeforum.info/ https://azul.org/en/team/karla-garibay-garcia-2/ https://twitter.com/AzulDotOrg https://twitter.com/kaaatso https://www.americanprogress.org/article/cap-co-hosted-event-centers-ocean-justice/ Share your conservation journey on the podcast by booking here: https://calendly.com/sufb/sufb-interview   Fill out our listener survey: https://www.speakupforblue.com/survey   Join the audio program - Build Your Marine Science and Conservation Career: https://www.speakupforblue.com/career   Facebook Group: https://bit.ly/3NmYvsI Connect with Speak Up For Blue: Website: https://bit.ly/3fOF3Wf Instagram: https://bit.ly/3rIaJSG Twitter: https://bit.ly/3rHZxpc