Subscribe to The Realignment to access our exclusive Q&A episodes and support the show: https://realignment.supercast.com/REALIGNMENT NEWSLETTER: https://therealignment.substack.com/PURCHASE BOOKS AT OUR BOOKSHOP: https://bookshop.org/shop/therealignmentEmail Us: realignmentpod@gmail.comFoundation for American Innovation: https://www.thefai.org/posts/lincoln-becomes-faiDerek Leebaert, author of Unlikely Heroes: Franklin Roosevelt, His Four Lieutenants, and the World They Made and Grand Improvisation: America Confronts the British Superpower, 1945-1957, joins The Realignment. Marshall and Derek discuss the role FDR's lieutenants (Harry Hopkins, Harold Ickes, Frances Perkins, and Henry Wallace) played in shepherding the United States through the Great Depression and World War II, how the structure of the federal bureaucracy and Executive Branch has shifted since FDR's presidency, and how the lessons of the 1930s and 1940s apply to today's challenges.