Rob Salerno joins Chad in examining the entire history of William and Madeline Drake, the parents of Bobby! This is a long conversation about Iceman, and what it is like to be a closeted teen, and the pressure placed on kids to change themselves, and the difficulties of coming out later in life, and the way queer stories have been told across the decades. Super proud of this wonderful episode. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy