Dan and Mike are recording with alarming frequency these days. Frankly, it seems suspicious if you ask me. However, as I'm one of the people participating and since I have no ulterior motive that I'm comfortable divulging, you'll all just have to go with us and enjoy the ride. And what a ride it is! On this episode, Dan and Mike discuss: The lie that is castor sugar. Why Dan's scones taste tangier than they should. The relationship between game designers and publishers. Also, we have a very special guest aboard: Kirsten Lunde! Kirsten discusses her upcoming symphony themed board game, Ovation (https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/326264/ovation), and talks about her move from the United States to New Zealand. Also, Kirsten retains her cool amidst Dan's stubborn refusal to pronounce her name correctly. All of this, plus A Few Acres of Rubbish! More information for Ovation here: https://ovationboardgame.com/