On Monday, June 5th, 2023, a story was published by The Debrief presenting claims from the first whistleblower to step forward publicly since the passing of UAP whistleblower legislation with the 2023 National Defense Authorization Act a few months ago. This whistleblower, David Charles Rusch, is a high-level member of the intelligence community, and he is claiming to have knowledge of special access programs that have recovered non-human technological craft. Later that same day, an excerpt from an interview with the whistleblower conducted by investigative journalist, Ross Coulthart, was aired on NewsNation in which Rusch made even more shocking claims—including the allegation that the US has also recovered the bodies of the non-human pilots of these craft.In this episode we do a deep dive into this story, doing our best to frame it within the great context of the disclosure movement, and ask the question: what does all this mean? And can what David Grusch is saying really be true?___________________________TRY BETTERHELPThis episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/ RABBITHOLE and get on your way to being your best self.GET ZENCASTRUse my special link zen.ai/rabbit30 and use rabbit30 to save 30% off your first three months of Zencastr professional. #madeonzencastr.WONGO PUZZLESUse my special link [https://zen.ai/rabbit10] to save 10% at wongopuzzles.com. The discount will be applied at checkout!___________________________GET THE EPISODE BRIEFGET THE BOOKGet a SIGNED COPYGet it on AmazonFOLLOWWebsiteTwitterFacebookMUSICTheme: Cabinet of Curiosities by Shaun FrearsonTIMESTAMPS00:30 Introduction03:14 What Makes This Story So Significant?07:10 Why Wasn’t The UFO Whistleblower Story In The New York Times?10:02 What Led Up To This?10:17 -Luis Elizondo & the 2017 New York Times Article12:31 -The UAP Task Force14:02 -AARO16:50 -2023 NDAA17:10 What Is David Charles Grusch?20:10 Who Did Grusch Talk To?20:42 What Did Grusch Tell Congress?23:35 Wait—So David Grusch Never Saw The Craft Or Bodies?27:19 How Do We Know David Grusch Is Who He Says He Is?27:57 -Karl E. Nell28:27 -Christopher Mellon29:13 -Jonathan Grey30:43 -Jim Shell31:32 Retaliation and Disclosure of Urgent Concerns34:02 David Grusch’s Interview with Ross Coulthart37:08 Thoughts on the Interview40:23 The Implications of Grusch’s Allegations47:57 Pentagon Response48:14 What Can We Do?This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5746035/advertisement