Michael chats with the University of Geneva’s Marlyne Sahakian about rethinking growth and the good life. They focus the conversation around the book Consumption Corridors: Living a Good Life within Sustainable Limits and discuss why setting upper and lower consumption limits is so important. Marylene explains the difference between human desires, needs and satisfiers. They touch on the normalization effect, the elusive goal of happiness, freedom, social lock-in, embracing enoughness, and the challenge of imposing constraints. Marylene also shares some of her research around citizen action labs and changing normative assumptions. Lastly, she offers advice on what you can do to have an impact.Consumption Corridors BookDialogues Project