It's all Business Techno now isn't it? Well, maybe. And who better to confirm or deny that statement than the man who coined the term itself, Guy Brewer aka Shifted. Prior to entering the Techno arena, Guy was part of the storied DnB combo Commix. They released some great music in the 2000s, before the call to Berlin became impossible to resist and the lure of late evenings in Kreuzberg discussing the nuance of kick drums proved just too strong. As we discover in this week's conversation, the above isn't even that much of a caricature of the real events. We discuss the pleasures and benefits of really good localised scenes, how market forces have distorted and commodified the more 'underground' parts of the dance scene, and whether music tech has really been as much of a disaster for creativity as I have tentatively argued in recent weeks. We also discuss Guy's new project, Carrier, and the more general, ongoing challenges of creativity. This was as really rewarding conversation and one that you're going to enjoy!If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features regular bonus podcasts and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else. Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation there in the public channels, so please do! In other news, the Hardcore Heaven EP is now SOLD OUT on vinyl. Hope all of you who managed to grab one are happy with the product. Two of the tracks will be available digitally in the coming weeks, different versions to the ones that appear on the vinyl though. Grab em here. But we DO still have copies of the Hotflush 20th anniversary 3 x 12" gatefold vinyl available. You can grab one of those here. Finally have a listen to a release from our friends over at Echorex. It's a Big Miz original remixed by the fantastic Niina... take a listen here. Listen to all the music discussed on the show via the Not A Diving Podcast Spotify playlistFor more links and other info visit the official Scuba websiteFollow Scuba: twitter instagram bandcamp