Jay interviews Kathy and Jeff Phillips from his hometown of Ocean City, Maryland.  Kathy and Jeff were the directors of the Delmarva Eastern Surfing Association district in Jay's early competitive career and became two of his biggest advocates in moving through the ranks of the ESA, eventually launching him into his pro career.  They were among the first in that organization to embrace bodyboarding and were key to the sport's growth on the east coast.  Kathy is in the East Coast Surfing Hall Of Fame and is a rare recipient of the "President's Award" honoring all she's done for wave riding on the east coast.