On this episode I continue my conversation Ryan Abrams, Portfolio Manager at Wisconsin Alumni Research Association, Ela Karahasanoglu, VP at Workplace Safety and Insurance Board, and Carrie Lo, Director of Hedge Strategies at CalSTRS.-----EXCEPTIONAL RESOURCE: Find Out How to Build a Safer & Better Performing Portfolio using this FREE NEW Portfolio Builder ToolIn This Episode, You’ll Learn:When do you stop adding more managers?Ela’s magic range of managersCarrie’s approach to choosing managersHow management fees should be structuredWhat advice Carrie would give to other pensions planning to start allocating to risk mitigation strategiesWhy Ela recommends a thorough preparation and vision for risk mitigation strategiesRyan’s thoughts on trends during dislocation periodsWhat challenges the guests had to overcome as part of their implementation processWhy CalPERS are leaving hedge funds when CalSTRS are adding them, even when some of the board members are the same-----ATTENTION TTU TRIBE : SIGN-UP for Rick Rule's Symposium: Once in a life-time natural resource insights from the BEST investors in the world via a first-class livestream or Live event!Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “The Many Flavors of Trend Following” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Learn more about Ryan Abrams and Wisconsin Alumni Research AssociationLearn more about Ela Karahasanoglu and Workplace Safety and Insurance BoardLearn more about Carrie Lo and