Joe spoke with Masters in Business podcast host Barry Ritholz on what politicians really know about ESG investing, and Bloomberg Washington Bureau Chief Peggy Collins on her interview with Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo. Plus, our politics panel, Bloomberg Politics Contributor Jeanne Sheehan Zaino and Lester Munson, Principal at government relations firm, BGR on George Santos ethics probe, potential White House ESG veto showdown, U.S. messaging to China, and who's showing up at CPAC. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.