Joe was joined by Bloomberg Economics Editor Mike McKee and Moody's Chief Economist Mark Zandi on the definition of a recession, GOP Strategist Jennifer Kerns on what to expect when President Trump returns to Washington for the first time since leaving office to give a speech. Plus, Bloomberg Politics Contributors Jeanne Sheehan Zaino and Rick Davis on the delayed CHIPS Act vote, the White House messaging on recession and the political future for Donald Trump.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.