Bloomberg’s Kevin Cirilli talks to John Gans, former Chief Speechwriter at the Pentagon under Secretary Ash Carter, Director of Communications and Research at the University of Pennsylvania’s Perry World House global policy center. and author of the new book "White House Warriors: How the National Security Council Transformed the American Way of War." In this Sound On Extra, Kevin and John discuss technology and work culture at the National Security Council.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.