In which the question “how long can one of Jude’s summaries go?” is asked and answered as we discuss “Z’ha’dum”, featuring a lengthy debate about Sheridan’s love of warcrimes. We meet both his and his actor’s wife, and dive into the extremely shallow waters of the Shadows’ moral and political philosophy. Jude rants about the origin of telepaths, Justen expounds about 90s neoliberalism, and the gang talks about the toll that writing two seasons of TV in a row took on JMS.Connect with the show at @babylonpodjectHelp us keep the lights on via our Patreon!Justen can be found at @justenwritesAna can be found at @The_Mianaai, and also made our show art.Both Ana and Justen can also be found on The Compleat Discography, a Discworld re-read podcast.Jude Vais can be found at @eremiticjude. His other work can be found at Athrabeth - a Tolkien Podcast and at Garbage of the Five Rings."The Voice" of the Babylon Podject is provided by Alyson Grauer, who can be found at @dreamstobecomeClips from the original show remain copyrighted by Warner Bros, Inc. and are used under the Fair Use doctrine.Music attribution:The Descent by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4490-the-descentLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/This show is edited and produced by Aaron Olson, who can be found at @urizenxvii