In which Jude refuses to admit that Season 4 Franklin is an OK character. "No Surrender, No Retreat" features some epic bedhead from Vir, G'Kar surfing Reddit while Londo attempts to admit that he's made some bad choices, and speculation on whether they had to use a maintbot with a tattoo gun to put the station logo on the White Stars. In "Exercise of Vital Powers", Garibaldi goes full QAnon and meets his creepy new boss, and goes above and beyond his brainwashing to be an awful human being, and we discuss the various merits of growing oranges on Mars vs. B5.Connect with the show at @babylonpodjectHelp us keep the lights on via our Patreon!Justen can be found at @justenwritesAna can be found at @The_Mianaai, and also made our show art.Both Ana and Justen can also be found on The Compleat Discography, a Discworld re-read podcast.Jude Vais can be found at @eremiticjude. His other work can be found at Athrabeth - a Tolkien Podcast and at Garbage of the Five Rings."The Voice" of the Babylon Podject is provided by Alyson Grauer, who can be found at @dreamstobecomeClips from the original show remain copyrighted by Warner Bros, Inc. and are used under the Fair Use doctrine.Music attribution:The Descent by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4490-the-descentLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/This show is edited and produced by Aaron Olson, who can be found at @urizenxvii