Dr. Ibironke Desalu, Professor of Anaesthesia at the University of Lagos in Lagos, Nigeria, and Open Anesthesia Editor Elizabeth Igaga discuss Dr. Desalu's experiences and the lessons she has learned providing, advocating for and improving anesthetic care in Nigeria. Dr. Desalu highlights coping with burnout, her relentless advocacy for improved pediatric anesthesia care in Africa and her approach to systems change. Further reading discussed in the interview can be found at the following links: WFSA Global Workforce Survey: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28753173/ Global Surgery 2030: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(15)60160-X/fulltext International Standards for a Safe Practice of Anesthesia: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29736769/ Pediatric Anesthesia Training in Africa (PATA) Fellowship: Nigeria: https://wfsahq.org/news/latest-news/applications-open-paediatric-anaesthesia-training-in-africa- pata-fellowship-nigeria/ Uganda: https://wfsahq.org/news/latest-news/applications-open-2023-paediatric-anaesthesia-training-in-a frica-pata-fellowship-uganda/ Zambia: https://wfsahq.org/news/latest-news/applications-open-2023-paediatric-anaesthesia-training-afri ca-pata-fellowship-zambia/