Joe McCann currently works in cloud and AI at Microsoft and has spent decades in tech, crypto, and open source communities. He recently wrote a piece called “A New, New World Order” all about the second and third order effects of Covid-19.  In this conversation, Joe and NLW discuss: Localism and the beginning of the end of globalization The return of domestic manufacturing  The ‘Roaring 20s’ of Inflation The inevitability of Universal Basic Income in response to inflation QE infinity and the US’s nationalization by proxy National healthcare as national security and why microbes are this decade’s terrorists  Proof of health, and why it’s likely to be implemented on a blockchain