In this special episode of The New2Jesus Podcast, I interview my great friend, Pastor Jon Utley. I've known for over 20 years, and greatly value his leadership and Christ-like example. Jon is no stranger to trials. He shares with me how we as Christians can find hope as we go through trials in this life. He is the pastor of Pleasant Plains Baptist Church in Apex, North Carolina.Jon's Links:Church website: https://www.ppbcapex.orgChurch Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ppbcApexChurch Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pleasantplainsbaptist/Church Sermon Audio: https://www.sermonaudio.com/source_detail.asp?sourceid=pleasantplainsIf you aren't sure if you would go to heaven, watch this video: https://youtu.be/KoyKxb8AWs8DM me on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/danielbergman99/Website: New2Jesus.com