#195.** To support the podcast: https://seforimchatter.com/support-seforimchatter/ or email seforimchatter@gmail.com**With Prof. David Kertzer discussing Pope Pius XII and his relationship with Mussolini and Hitler and silence regarding the Jews during the HolocaustWe discussed Pius XII and his background, how he differed from his predecessors, Benito Mussolini and the relationship between the two men, Pius's relationship with Hitler and the Germans, Pius's inaction and silence when Germany invaded Poland, Bombing of Rome and invasion of Italy, Mussolini's removal, the roundup of Rome's Jews and the Pope's silence and only caring for those baptized and the like, and much more.To purchase, "The Pope at War": https://amzn.to/41zNLhe