In this episode of Empire, Robert Leshner - founder of Compound Labs - joins us to discuss how DeFi will evolve in the wake of Operation Choke Point 2.0 and the coordinated effort to debank crypto. We discuss what this means for today's DeFi protocols, the end of the DeFi Mullet thesis and how teams will respond. Then we explore Robert's thoughts on why MakerDAO's RWA strategy is short-sighted, the stablecoin landscape, the AppChain thesis and more!

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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:24 Operation Choke Point 2.0
07:24 Compound Treasury and the DeFi Mullet
11:19 The Return of DeFi?
16:09 BTC vs ETH
19:17 Building in the US vs Offshore
26:25 Real World Assets
28:52 Quicknode ad
30:38 Synthetix Ad
32:17 Stablecoin Landscape
39:48 The AppChain Thesis and Value Accrual
48:24 Reputation, Limit Orders and Security

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Resources

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